Coaching Conversations in 2025

Transforming Coaching: Unlocking the Power of Cadence Coaching and Asynchronous Communication

Tim Hagen

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Unlock the transformative potential of Cadence Coaching, a revolutionary approach to coaching that shatters the confines of traditional, scheduled sessions. Imagine a coaching experience where conversations are not bound by calendars but flow naturally, capturing real-time moments of insight and progress. Our personal journey with Coach Philip reveals the power of asynchronous communication, where tools like Slack channels enable dynamic and engaging interactions. You'll learn how integrating content—such as videos and thought-provoking questions—into these exchanges enriches the coaching experience, making it both immediate and impactful.

In this episode, we showcase real-life success stories of clients who have gained clarity and purpose through Cadence Coaching's innovative methods. Discover the advantages of supplemental coaching, where partnering with subject matter experts elevates the coaching journey. We dive into unique examples, like leveraging the fable "My Iceberg is Melting" by John Kotter to provoke deeper understanding and engagement. Our exploration promises to redefine your perspective on coaching, showing how this flexible approach captures invaluable opportunities that traditional methods often miss. Join us for an enlightening conversation that promises to reshape your coaching paradigm.

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Does it matter how we coach what I mean by that? Does it matter the methodology in which we coach, not the model in terms of like, using our framework qualms or the grow coaching model but does it matter how we coach in terms of our delivery? You know one of the things that we've uncovered here at Progress Coaching and we created this methodology called Cadence Coaching. It is an asynchronous version of coaching. Now, for the last 15 years, I've actually taught a concept called journal-based coaching. Dive more into one-on-one coaching and supporting our clients is really having those conversations, you know, during scheduled times was just not as impactful as I was hoping. So I started to work with my coach, philip, and we started to talk about, you know, our sessions and I said you know, to be honest with you, I don't want to schedule a half an hour. I said I like to keep a free-flowing conversation going. So we started to use our Slack channel, which really worked, and what we started to notice more than anything was our ability to have conversations, free-flowing conversations, sharing the thoughts and asking questions and uncovering what the other person was going through. And what I noticed was I was gaining traction. I was gaining a lot of traction. I felt different. He was coaching me and it just felt weird and I'm like boy, there's something here. So for the last two years we've created something called cadence coaching. Now I want to be very clear. It's kind of like the pandemic, right? You know? Everyone said what when the pandemic hit? I can't wait to get back in person. I am not against in-person coaching or virtual, scheduled, calendar-driven coaching. What I'm saying is there's another form of coaching, the way we coach. So let me give you two examples. So cadence is something where we use content. So I'll send out to somebody who I'm coaching right now, who's really struggling finding their career. So I sent a couple videos with the software tool that we use and I said how did this video sit with you? What did you learn from this video? And I started to use what I think is good coaching questions after the content, after the video. And he said, boy, this is really fun, this is different video. And he said, boy, this is really fun, this is different. So I started to look at the timeframe, the interaction between us. So we had about 28 interactions going back and forth, roughly about 14 a piece, and we added up the time from both parties, 28 interactions. We were under 40 minutes. So I asked him. I said so, does this process work for you? He goes oh my gosh, I love it. Now do I think we're going to do in-person coaching and have scheduled time on our calendar? Absolutely so.

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Cadence coaching is about sending content, asking questions, and then, when someone answers, the cadence of interaction starts. Here was the cool thing when we did this, we started to notice that we were capturing things more in the moment. My boss, I had a conversation about my strengths and where she saw me potentially going with my career, and the boss, whether correctly or incorrectly, said oh, I think you'd be great as a project manager. My client has no interest whatsoever in being a project manager. Now, the boss isn't wrong. He got a good flavor of what was going on in terms of her interpretation and he said how do I have that conversation? She wants to meet again tomorrow. I captured this. I gave him some feedback. I gave him some insights, some ideas, some strategies. Had we waited for our next calendar-driven coaching conversation, what would have happened? We would have lost that opportunity, that moment. So think about using content, creating cadence of coaching. Now I want to also share with you something that we teach here at Progress Coaching called supplemental coaching.

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One of the things that I quickly realized is that one of the best things that we can all do is partner with subject matter experts. Let me give you an example. You know, for years one of my favorite books is my Iceberg is Melting by John Cotter. It's a fable about a penguin community and it talks about the iceberg is melting. So some people swam off the iceberg, went and looked for other icebergs and never came back, just kind of covered themselves. Some people went back to icebergs and said, yeah, I found one, we all need to go. Then people back at the original iceberg said, no, no, no, no, no, we're fine, it's not melting that bad. I don't think it's melting meaning they're adverse to change, and it just really gets you thinking. Right, it really gets you thinking, and so one of the things that I would share with you that is so powerful is to use subject matter experts, whether it be their audible version, whether it be a book or an article.

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Remember when you use content and you ask questions afterwards such as how did this sit with you? What was your impression? What did you learn with you? What was your impression, what did you learn from this? What have you applied? What are you going to apply? And you use your coaching questions. Yet content from subject matter experts also gives you validity as a coach. So does it matter how we coach? I think it does. I think we as coaches have a responsibility to search for creative ways to expand beyond our normal verbal interaction. What are your thoughts?